Since my last podcast and some of my recent posts, I’ve been noticing a “creepy” meme everywhere. It seems I can’t watch a television show, read the news, or hang out with people without the word coming up. It makes me wonder what might be going on in the collective unconscious of the human race – subconscious fears as always I’m sure, played on by the media no doubt.
Anyway, here’s an article about a guy in Australia taking a selfie of himself with a Darth Vader cardboard standee. Some nearby children start talking to him and he responds only to have their mother take a picture of him and post it to Facebook implying the guy is a pedophile and claiming the guy is a “creep.” 20,000 social media shares later, friends of the guy start noticing the posts and alerted the guy who is embarrassed, has had his reputation tarnished, and is afraid afraid he might be hurt or have his property damaged from mob mentality from the incident.
The man headed for the police, who verified his story, and cleared him of any wrongdoing. He is considering legal options against the woman and calls on people to get their facts straight and to rely on actual news sources rather than social media for correct information.
After posting my podcast Episode 12 – The Power of Names, I saw the following news article that ties in with the podcast (link at the bottom of this article). In my podcast, I talk about how the names we call people can build people up or tear them down and particularly about my pet peeve of the use of the word “creepy.”
The article shames a guy on Jeopardy for a “creepy” response to a Jeopardy challenge and before the first paragraph is even done implies the guy might be a pedophile. The answer is, “In common law, the age of this, signalling adulthood is presumed to be 14 in boys & 12 in girls.” The man’s response, “What is the age of consent?” The correct answer was “puberty.”
His response gained him the label of “creepy” and possibly even a “pedophile.” It doesn’t help that the guy appears in his 30s or 40s, is bald, and assumed an intellectual or he wouldn’t be on the show. Is his response really that outlandish, especially since the challenge statement starts out with in “In common law”? How often do we think of common law dictating the age of puberty and how often do we think of common law in terms of marriage and relationships? I think most people would think of the latter.
On second glance, I did notice the ages seemed a bit young for age of consent, but who knows in some backwoods parts of the U.S. A Jeopardy contestant doesn’t have time for second glances.
I decided to look up age of consent laws to see what ages constitute this. In many states and even the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. In Canada, it’s also 16. In some countries in Central America and the Netherlands, the ages is as low as 15. In some parts of Mexico, the minimum age of consent is 12, 13, or 14.
In the past, in many countries (including the U.S.), the age of consent was puberty (and sometimes even younger) or was for the families to decide, and it wasn’t uncommon for marriages to take place among two people in their teens or even between a generally older man and a younger female. In some cases, these marriages were arranged. And get this, the age of consent was often set by “common law.”
I’m not at all trying to suggest that a 30 plus year old man should be consorting with teenagers. What I am trying to suggest is that his response doesn’t earn the man the label of “creep” or “pedophile.” As far as I can tell he was just trying to answer the question quickly and got it wrong.
Age of Consent — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent
Age of Consent in the U.S. — http://www.ageofconsent.us/
Ages of Consent in North America — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
Episode 12 is titled “The Power of Names.”
In this episode I talk about the power of names including the names we use as individuals, the names we take on as groups (specifically our sexual identities and spiritual paths), and the names we call others.
Individual names include our personal names, family names, nicknames, craft and magickal names, and our true names.
Group names include the names we call ourselves based on our sexual identities and our spiritual paths. Do we call ourselves gay, LGBT, Androphile, Queer, or some other term? As Pagans do we call ourselves the generic Pagan, Druid, Odinist, Wiccan, Witch, or even (gasp) Warlock.
Do we call other people names that build the up or tear them down? What about the term “creepy”?
There’s also a news update and some cool music and sound clips throughout the episode.
You can find the episode on my website at: http://www.melmystery.matrixwerx.com/ or through iTunes.
April 8, 2015 | Categories: Names, Social Musings | Tags: Androphile, Asatru, creep shaming, creepy, Druid, Family Names, Gay, Heathen, Intersex, LGBT, Magickal Names, Names, Nicknames, Odinist, Pagan, Personal Names, Queer, Sexual Identity, transgender, True Names, Uranian, Warlock, Wiccan, Witch | Leave a comment
Last week an acquaintance said something that got me thinking. He implied it would be creepy if he joined a gaming group with college aged gamers. I’m assuming this is because he’s his early 30s or thereabouts and perceives himself as much too old to be hanging out with such young whippersnappers in their 20s.
Most of the time when I hear people talking about “creepy” they’re talking about someone else, so it was refreshing to hear someone self-reflecting that their own actions might be “creepy.” Even so, I think there’s a larger social issue to be reflected on here – why is it okay to label some people or some actions as “creepy” in the first place. Sure, there are some people and some actions that are genuinely creepy, but I honestly think that the majority of people labeled as creepy are simply misunderstood and are frequently shy or socially awkward. While a few may be serial killers, rapists, or white slave traders, I’d hazard to guess that the majority are not. Of the remaining population, there are admittedly those who are either deliberately or unknowingly inappropriate, overly assertive, or just plain too honest.
So what’s creepy about playing Magic the Gathering with people outside your age cohort? Perhaps I don’t see the problem because I’m one of those creepy people with friends of all ages and backgrounds.
Introverts are creepy. Librarians are creepy. Photographers are creepy. Pagans are creepy. Christians are creepy. Nerds and geeks are creepy. People with disabilities are creepy. Old (sometimes just older) people are creepy. That guy over there just asked me out – boy is he creepy! Anyone – scratch that – everyone looking for a date online is creepy – obviously there’s something wrong with them or they’d have better luck meeting people offline. Leather folks, drag queens and the transgendered – creeeepy. Men who are upfront and honest about their feelings or intentions are creepy – what?
Basically anyone outside of one’s social “in group” can be creepy, especially if they fall outside of social ideals, expectations, or behaviors in some way. Their behavior doesn’t even need to be threatening – just different. Creepy is based on a subjective feeling inside the person who gets creeped out, and that’s one of the biggest problems with labeling someone as creepy. It’s about someone’s subjective feelings, not necessarily an inappropriate, predatory, or aggressive action. Actions can be proven; feelings are individual and can be biased. The subjective feeling could come about just as much by one’s own insecurities, personal issues, background, or belief system as the actions of another person. Sigmund Freud even suggested that it’s common for people to transfer feelings, experiences, and mistrust from one person to another who reminds us of that person. Perhaps the creepy person reminds us of someone else we had a bad experience with. The other big problem with labeling is that the person being labeled has to live with that label and the negative reputation associated with being called “creepy”. That’s a hard one to live down because the more one denies it the creepier one appears.
There’s usually some element of sexuality involved with allegations of “creepiness.” The implication is that the person is a sexual predator or that the person deliberately and malevolently says or does something sexually inappropriate on a regular basis. While complaints of lewd comments or inappropriate touching are legitimately “creepy”, other complaints and justifications for labeling someone as “creepy” aren’t necessarily justified – someone unattractive, socially awkward, or older asked us out or maybe that guy was overly friendly even if he said or did nothing inappropriate. Sometimes the only difference between whether someone is labeled creepy or not is how attractive and self-confident they are. Attractive and self-confident people can be creeps or just plain jerks, but usually they’re innocent until proven guilty whereas the opposite is often the case for unattractive and socially awkward people.
In our cynical, fearful society there’s always something so fear. Perhaps we’re too afraid. We’ve been given all these messages to fear strangers. We hear all these things in the news about Craigslist killers, abductions (not the alien kind), pedophile priests, and date rape. Sure these bad people exist in society, and I’m not suggesting people shouldn’t be smart about these things, but we should save our labels for those people who have truly earned the label. Labeling others willy nilly only serves to keep us isolated from people with different ideas and takes on life or in different age groups or social groups. This labeling also perpetuates the feelings of isolation and dejectedness in those being labeled unjustifiably. Sometimes a stranger is just a friend you haven’t met yet, or so I’ve heard.
Many ancient cultures valued the concepts of hospitality and civility, as well as the idea that things aren’t always what they seem – from frog princes to gods dressed as beggars. In the myths and folktales of such cultures, those weird, crazy, poor, or creepy strangers one met might just be a god, spirit, or king in disguise. They might be testing you to see how you treat others. If you ignore them or treat them badly, you might be punished. If you treat them well and look beyond appearances you might be rewarded. Sometimes the creepy stranger in these tales really did have bad intentions, which is why you have to go into each situation with an open and objective mind. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. And don’t label unless it’s truly justified.
The idea of a god or spirit in disguise might seem too farfetched for many in today’s world. We’re far more likely to believe the worst possible scenario or to fear the worst in people. The media sensationalizes the worst. As long as we’re dealing with “what ifs”, what if that “creepy” old man you think is flirting with you or that beggar on the street is a rich benefactor looking for someone to invest in or to leave his fortune to? What if that “creepy” person who asks you to model is a legitimate and professional talent scout or photographer willing to pay you for your look or talent? What if that “creepy” woman in the grocery store is actually an actress from a hidden camera show and how you treat her will show a television audience your true merits as a human being? What if that “creepy” manager at work wants to mentor you and help your career? What if the “creepy” person who strikes up a conversation with you at the bar has lots in common with you and has the potential to become a new best friend? All these things can and do happen – possibly just as often as the bad things. I don’t know the actual statistics. It seems short sighted and shallow to jump to the worst possible conclusions and to label people without a fact-based reason.
We’re also fearful of sexuality in our culture and that plays into the “creepy.” For a long time, gay men were viewed as creepy predators, the religious and political right still hold this view. People with fetishes are considered creepy. Women and men who date younger (albeit legal aged) individuals might be considered creepy. Even drag queens and the transgendered are labeled as creepy, rather than valued for their uniqueness and difference.
The term “creepy” has begun to be used toward men in the same way “slut” has been used with women. It’s a form of social control to control sexuality and sexual norms. “Slut” has been used as a derogatory term for women who don’t save their virginity for marriage or who enjoy exploring their sexuality. Rather than allowing women to feel free and empowered in their sexuality, the term “slut” punishes these women and keeps them in their place because of the damage the label can do to their reputation. “Creepy” is often used nonchalantly by the “pretty” socially privileged people to keep the average, “ugly”, older, or socially awkward people in their place – basically at arm’s length or even further.
“Creepy” has also been used by women to shame men who don’t buy into society’s ideas of monogamous vanilla sexuality and marriage. Sure there are “creeps” out there who lie and cheat and only think of their needs. There are other men who are honest and up front about their affectional and sexual intentions, as well as their unconventional ideas about sexuality. This includes men who are into a fetish scene, who remain bachelor’s (whether sexually active or happily asexual), those who follow polyamorous lifestyles, and even men who enjoy pornography. Many of these men might come across as “creepy” to someone with a puritanical view of sexuality, but they certainly aren’t creeps.
In our sex negative society, anything outside of mainstream gender and sex roles might be considered creepy. In a sex positive society, they would be seen as different, but equally acceptable alternatives for people to choose from.
I personally believe the term “creepy” should be saved for Halloween and horror movies, not for people – at least not unless they’ve actually done something to deserve the label.
I’m Mel Mystery. I’m not a creep, but I am creepy in a number of ways, but none of them particularly harmful or malevolent. Now get over it.
Some related links:
- Transference — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference
- Creep, Creepy, Creeper – http://www.city-data.com/forum/psychology/1942532-creep-creepy-creeper.html
- A good looking guy is rarely considered “Creepy” — http://www.girlsaskguys.com/fashion-style/q273067-a-good-looking-guy-rarely-considered-creepy
- Why do we demonize men who are honest about their sexual needs — http://www.alternet.org/story/148291/why_do_we_demonize_men_who_are_honest_about_their_sexual_needs
- Creep Shaming — http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/creep-shaming/
October 28, 2014 | Categories: Social Musings | Tags: ageism, bisexual men, creep, creep shaming, creepy, dating, drag queen, fetish, gay men, gods in disguise, introverts, labels, polyamory, slut shaming, social control, transgender | 3 Comments